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What's to love about Keilwerth?

For some reason, curiosity, likely, I have become interested in Keilwerth. So naturally am interested to hear from people who have or had one. What was it like. Have heard some derogatory things about them, i.e. cheap construction and old fashioned keywork....but those came from people with an agenda to sell another brand, so I rather doubt those comments.

Anyone here able to comment on their own experience with the Keilwerths as to sound, keywork, and ease of playing?
CMelodyMan

I've never played one, but from what I've hears, a Keilwerth is paying a lot of money for a sax that is nothing special, but that's just what I've heard.
Bleeding_Gums_Murphy

Oooh, we finally have a thread in the Keilwerth forum!!!!

Anyway, vintage Keilwerths are awesome horns and are well worth the price. They're found for half the price of vintage BA's and VI's.

Couf Superba's (made by keilwerth) are really great. Dark, warm sound with nice projection; It's really smooth too, like butter :P . They have really cool oversized pearls, and oversized everything else too (bell, you name it). They are very similar to the modern Keilwerths in almost every aspect except that the modern ones have a bit more projection (from hearing people play; i've never played a modern keilwerth), and the vintage ones are a little darker and smoother.

So, my conclusion is:
New Keilwerths: Not worth the expense, except maybe the SX-90's
Old Keilwerths: Killer Players, great value.

side note: i'd take a vintage or modern keilwerth over any selmer.
Bleeding_Gums_Murphy

Hmmm... it seems I got a bit off track in the last post. So like me.

Some stuff about all keilwerths (vintage and new)
1) VERY solid construction
2) NICE !!! projection
3) Dark and sweet sound (reminds me of SML Gold Medals)
4) Keywork is cleverly designed, and comfortable on the hands.
5) SX-90R's and Shadow's are way too expensive, just for rolled tone holes and some other doodads.
CMelodyMan

I meant that modern Keilwerths aren't that great for their price, and I forgot to mention that vintage Keilwerths are awesome, and you can find them pretty cheap. I got an offer from a guy the other day for a '41 Keilwerth for $700! I can give you the guys email address if you're interested in buying one.
jules

CMelodyMan wrote:
I meant that modern Keilwerths aren't that great for their price, and I forgot to mention that vintage Keilwerths are awesome, and you can find them pretty cheap. I got an offer from a guy the other day for a '41 Keilwerth for $700! I can give you the guys email address if you're interested in buying one.

Now then- this is an odd one- 1960-80s keilwerths aren't worth the metal they're made of, east german, badly made tat. i'd heard rumours that real old ones are pretty hot, any idea when things went bad over there? BTW- one of my buddies once got an early 1940s keilwerth in to repair with nazi marching band insignia on it- a bit creepy- fascist saxes!!
JPSaxMan

I'd be creeped out to....like, maybe not even play the sax just b/c of it's origin Confused
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So time has passed. Anybody know the date ranges of vintage Keilwerths that are worth picking up?

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