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JPSaxMan
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Reisio, maybe they are playing on Meyers and that's the problem? 
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darby dylan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I't must really sound horible |
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Tully
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| reisio wrote: | | As I've said elsewhere, I haven't heard a classical saxophonist on any prestigious recording lately that didn't sound like complete crap. Sure, their technique was good and if you had a tuner you could tell they were hitting the right pitches - but they usually have an overblown sound and a harsh, ear-splitting tone. |
Assuming you are referring to the big-name players these days (Delangle, Harle, Bornkamp, Rousseau, etc.), I have certainly not heard that opinion before, nor could I disagree more. Which legit player's sound do you like, then? Do you prefer the older, perhaps non-French, ones?
Just out of curiosity, are you opinions on this due at all to the influence of a teacher, or have you reached them entirely on your own?
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reisio
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure I've heard any I like. Delangle and Harle are both quite overblown and abrasive. Haven't heard Bornkamp. Rousseau is _okay_, but he's pretty old and I don't know if I've heard anything from when he was younger.
If you're asking if I had a teacher that liked to say stuff like "EEeeeeewwwww, Delangle, Harle and all those other legit guys sound like crap", the answer is no. :p |
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Tully
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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LOL, we must listen for completely different things in terms of tone quality, because Harle is perhaps my favorite legit player right now in terms of tone! Sound-wise, what jazz players do you like? I'm guessing you're into guys like Scott Hamilton that subtone a lot and have more of an "old school" sound, if you will? FWIW, I love that sort of sound for tenor.
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darby dylan
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:49 am Post subject: |
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I like this warm sound like people like sonny rollins.
i'm also more for the tenor for jazz.i find it gives something nicer.
what your opinion about this? |
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Tully
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I love Sonny Rollins. I wouldn't go so far as to say I prefer tenor for jazz, but there is just something about it...
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JPSaxMan
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I think tenor is ideal for jazz, if I had to choose between SATB, T would be #1.
Now I don't mean to de-rail good thoughts, but this topic is about Meyer. So let's end all off-topic discussions now please. Thank you 
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Tully
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Right, back to Meyers...
Anyhow, I love Meyers for alto (only tried a couple on tenor, but they just weren't right for me). Between the different tips, facings, and chambers, I can get whatever (non-classical) sound I want, but the mouthpiece still leaves room for me to fine-tune my own sound I have a great 7M small chamber that I use for combo playing or other times when my Runyon Custom (which I use mostly for playing lead) is too much. However, I'm very interested to try the Vandoren V16 series, as they're supposed to be copies of the old Meyer Bros. pieces.
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Tully,
What do you think of that Runyon Custom? Jacob plays one on his Antigua soprano and he sounds almost like Branford. I know, alto/soprano two different animals but some opinions wouldn't hurt. And I know we're drifting off the topic of Meyer but at least we're talking about mouthpieces now... 
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Tully
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For lead alto, the Runyon Custom gets me exactly the sound I want. Bright, focused, and clear, but not whatsoever nasal or tinny. Not only do the Customs play well IMO, but you can get them for very little used.
I have the same soprano set-up (Antigua 586, Runyon Custom 7) as Jacob, but I can't decide whether or not I like the Custom on soprano. I've only had it for about a week, but so far, it's sort of nasal and blattly, not full and round like my Morgan 6J. I have a hunch this is a reed problem, since I've only been able to play it with what I have on hand, Vandoren blue box 3.5 (actually a good sound, but they're so hard I can hardly play it) and Vandoren ZZ 2.5 (too soft, and very thin-sounding). I'm going to grab some blue box 3's next, since those should be dark and full like my current 3.5's, but play much easier.
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Now that would be weird...having the same exact setup as someone else
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Tully
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| JPSaxMan wrote: | | Now that would be weird...having the same exact setup as someone else |
You know what's also weird? Both my soprano and alto Customs are red, in a 7 facing, and played without the spoiler (have one for both, but I never use it)! Plus, I bought both Customs used off SOTW.
BTW, I just finished playing a bit of soprano, and with a Rico Royal 3 (I was lucky enough to find one laying around), the soprano Custom is sounding much better. I think it'll be a keeper after all.
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