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JPSaxMan
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, here's how I growl.

Some disagree with this, and for all I know I could be doing something completely else...but I gargle while I'm playing like you're gargling mouthwash. But most of the time I do it faster than normal to get a more of a real 'growl' effect! Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, that works a little better for me, thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been working on growling for a while and gargling works great. But as for fluttertongueing, I am at a loss on how to roll my R's. My spanish teachers always get a laugh when they hear me act like a retard trying to roll my R's Confused. What's Vibrato?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vibrato is played on longer tones. Instead of just having a steady sound... it sounds like the note is... I dunno... quivering? It can be really pretty. the sound is controlled with your mouth, it's kinda of like a fast succession of wawawa's, to get a better idea you could go to www.dogpile.com click on audio and search vibrato. You should come up with some decent sound files.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To do vibrato, you move you jaw up and down rather quickly, depending on how fast you want your vibrato, kinda like you're chewing. That's jaw vibrato.

There's also another form of vibrato, called diaphragm vibrato, that I can do, but I can't discribe it. Kenny G uses diaphragm vibrato, but it's more often found in flutists.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do the jaw vibrato and it really is quivering your jaw Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get it know, I've been doing some of this for a while and just now learning the name for it, thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JPSaxMan wrote:
Gotta ask you guys sumtin...

Do you ever do altissimo notes (like F, F# typical max-out, G, A, and up)?

I've been doing altissimo G on my alto a lot and most times the note growls on it's own...is that a good thing? Most of the time I can get it to come out clear, but sometimes it just does that...still in tune and all that...just growls...maybe I'll record it and let you listen Confused


i can play pretty well up to the C# above altissimo g. it takes practice. i think the G and A are harder to play than the notes above it. G is pretty fickle dependng on which fingering do you use. there's a huge scientific explanation for why that note sucks, but i wont go into that. i can give you a few other fingering that wont growl as much in case you want to play it in a classical peice or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can hit up to B, but everything about G# is WAAAY out of tune.
G doesn't seem to be a problem at all, but A is troublesome sometimes.. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

altosaxgeek5 wrote:
I can hit up to B, but everything about G# is WAAAY out of tune.
G doesn't seem to be a problem at all, but A is troublesome sometimes.. Twisted Evil


A is a pain too. which fingering do you use? i might be able to help you.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Left hand: 23 right hand: 12
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

altosaxgeek5 wrote:
I use Left hand: 23 right hand: 12


this is the fingering i use
LH; 23

RH; 123 plus low c and Bb keys to bring the pitch down.

or

LH: 23
RH: 12 plus side Bb and C keys. it's really REALLY sharp but it's not very resistant.

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