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altosax4ever · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: Well...

It's fine if you don't like the selmer line, but let's not bash them, ok? A lot of people love selmers in this froum, and people will only get mad if you start calling them crap.

And why, in your opinion, is the selmer line not good? Just wondering how you got this opinion.

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reisio · Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Florida

I love the Selmer line - they just messed up when they decided to jump away from the Mark VI design (a mistake they've clearly recognized and are trying to fix).

JPSaxMan · Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:32 am Post subject:

Yea...

I always wondered how hard it could be to re-create the Mark VI. Take some measurements, add the same hand-crafted precision of the VI, and voila. What's so hard about that? Confused

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reisio · Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Florida

It's quite simple...unless of course you've been promoting a different design for a quarter century and feel that you would most likely lose your job if you now told your superiors that this different design sucks in comparison to the old. :p

Altosaxophonerules · Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 130 Location: Canada

I actually think Selmer wanted to Re-create the Mark VI and make it even better with some modern designs.

altosax4ever · Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject:

And they did a darn good job!

BTW, you say you loved the slemer line until they went away from the Mark VI. So you stopped loving selmer in what..the 70s? Shocked

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reisio · Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Florida

Hrmmm?

altosax4ever · Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject:

Well, the Mark VI stopped being produced in 74, so you stopped loving Selmer 30 odd years ago?
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reisio · Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Florida

I do not care much for Selmer saxes made inbetween Mark VIs and the Reference horns, no.

GAS_Wyoming · Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 84 Location: Gillette, WY

selmer4evr · Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 3

I have owned and played many a sax from cigar cutter to a few markVIs to SA80s to Series IIs and I have tried some series IIIs but a VII is unique .

Let me tell you about a discussion with Londeix . The last time he came to Montreal for masterclasses I spoke with him on this particular subject. Unhappy with my Series II I asked him if he could pick out a horn for me the next time he was at Selmer Paris ( I studied with one of his prize students and I had good connections here). I had tried some of his horn picks ( for his students) and they are amazing. I also told him that I always preferred my VII to any horn I had ever tried and that i would like to get some VII features in a SERIE II .

He responded this way:

"All Selmers saxes from BAs to SBA, to VI, to SA80 to Ser II are all, in his words "beautiful mares". The MarkVII is more of a "thorough-bred stallion" wild temperamental and difficult to tame, but when you can tame and harness it,,,, nothing comes close.

Anyway I still love, own, and play MarkVIIs even though I try just about everything .

One more thing of interest ,,you have to know what you are doing when you pick a horn. All the horns he picked for his students were never liked at the beginning they were all too difficult to play and very resistant .
This was especially true of the VIIs, they showed their potential after six months or so !!!! My teacher's horn ( 1977 ) took one year to develop and lose its original resistance ,,I have tried to purchase it on many occasions no dice!!!! He plays classical to jazz and it works on everything. The horn slices through any section.

By the way I tell everybody that VIIs are not a good horn and to stay away!!! This keeps the price down and me happy,,So far i have owned 3 VIIs and I am constatly searching for the perfect VII and if only it would be silver!!!

JPSaxMan · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject:

And this has what to do with the Serie II OR the LaVoix USA? Confused

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