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JAZZY J



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: Doubles Reply with quote

I play the Alto Sax, and would like to play Soprano also as a double, but many people I talk to about it, say that it requires more air, and ability to play Soprano.

What is the difference between the two? I mean as far as playability.
I know the fingering is the same.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've heard (and have come to accept), the soprano requires much more chops than alto for intonation, because even if you have a good soprano, the demands for intonation are just so much more demanding. I dunno about air required...that seems like a false statement, but I could be wrong. Alto in general is just easier to learn on. If I were you, I would get to an upper intermediate level on alto before looking at soprano. How many years have you been playing? If you've been goin at it at least 4 years, look at tenor or bari just to broaden your horizons. Then maybe after about 7 or 8 years of still going on alto and with a little bit more sax background on ya (3 years of tenor, bari, or both) take a look at soprano.

These are my words of advice only, are not omnipotent, and someone might have something better. But take them for what they are worth and I wish ya luck! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does require quite a lot more embrochure control, but I wouldn't say that you need experience on either of the lower saxes, since the embrochure required for them is more of an opposite. You must be VERY firm for sop. If you started on alto, it'll be a little easier than if you started on tenor. You probably should, however, be good at alto.

(that's my 2 cents)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, as4vr, has a good point. I just said to expose yourself in the more time you need to get better at alto to move to soprano, but I guess it might not make sense to learn the looser (not that much tho) embouchures for tenor and bari when you'll need a firmer one for soprano. You can't have that loose of an embouchure on tenor, btw. But it can't be as tight as an alto embouchure. So...yea, so maybe just stick with alto for a couple years, build up them chops, then when you think you're ready, go ahead and try a soprano. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Doubles Reply with quote

JAZZY J wrote:
I play the Alto Sax, and would like to play Soprano also as a double, but many people I talk to about it, say that it requires more air, and ability to play Soprano.

What is the difference between the two? I mean as far as playability.
I know the fingering is the same.

Thanks


Soprano actually takes less air (shorter horn + smaller mpc tip opening=less air needed). Personally, I love playing soprano, as I find it more responsive than the other saxes (which, for physical reasons, is due primarily to its size). However, as has been mentioned, it does require a very firm, precise embouchure, its intonation is rather unstable (IMO, a big part of finding the right soprano mouthpiece is finding one with the best intonation for you), and a pleasant-sounding upper register is especially difficult.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all, points well taken.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I satrted with alto for 4 years then I played tenor in school for ayear and went back to alto for 2 years then I was introduce to the cannonball saxes which I heard from walter beasely and gerald albright were the best saxe they ever use cause it made them feel like they were one with there instrument so I went and bought an alto and it felt like I was plying a tenor and played with it for three years and then I got a soprano on that 3rd year and I felt fine playing it then I went and bought a tenor sax 2 months later, but any way I got to agree with the others that soprano takes a lot of skill and a firm embouchure to play(and Im just a senior in hight school) heck im the only sax player at school who can play a soprano without struggling
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